Shooting the federal true ball 1600 fps 1oz slugs gave me a five shot 4 group as the first one sighting in a 4x scope at 50yds kind of offhand. I think the skirts were too thin, and after a little fouling the drag in the bore broke the slug up. Find out which online ammo shop has the best price, instock, right now. A smooth bore firearm, including muzzleloaders, designed for firing. This cartridge was designed by the mauser brothers for their first successful rifle, the single shot model 1871. Any way i now have the lyman sabot slug mold and working with it.
Although it is unlikely, it is possible that the tip of the protruding slug could impact the primer of the shell in front of it. However, if you are like me, you might be a little skeptical about. You might think these would be considered a destructive device. Garden guns are smoothbore firearms specifically made to fire. The slug i was referring to is the lyman foster slug. Can i shoot a rifled slug through a smooth bore 16 gauge. Most slugs are good to aobut 100 yards, but new improvements made it possible to shoot out to 200 yards with a good slug and a good rifled barrel. Extremely flexible with the ability to take down waterfowl with small shot or be the ultimate protector when armed with slugs, shotgun rounds are economical and pack a wallop with the right round. My thinking is that the rough plastic was hard on the paper and the jump through the forcing cone didnt help either. Only use brenneke slugs in modern shotguns known to be in good condition.
Paper patched bullets ppb are probably the most controversial of all lead bullet styles. Today, 60 percent of slug sales are made up of common rifled slugs or fullbore slugs fired from smoothbore shotguns. This catalog is a record of molds ive made, and posted for reference. Be sure that the case mouth is smooth and flared enough to start the ppb easily.
You only get a few inches of lead on each stroke of the press, whereas with the power machines, you can get yards of lead on a single stroke. The first effective modern shotgun slug was introduced by wilhelm brenneke in 1898, and his design remains in use today. Legal hunting methods and weapon restrictions oregon. Slugs were big, slow and soft, which was fine for closerange shots at standing deer. However, there are some makemodels that say not to shoot slugs out of. They do not make the slug spin as some think, the slug acts like a shuttlecockbirdie the premise was that during that time, just about any shotgun may suffice as the meat getting gun using rifled slugs. Oct 16, 2009 you wont get good accuracy shooting sabot slugs from a smooth bore shotgun. I can get both on silhouette paper at 25 yards in a pieplate size group. A shotgun shell is a selfcontained cartridge often loaded with multiple metallic shot, which are small, generally spherical projectiles. I know sabot slugs are designed to be used with rifled shotgun barrels, but can they be used effectively with a smooth bore barrel. May 12, 20 something to keep in mind on using sabots in a smoothbore.
If your weapon has a removable choke, pretty sure youd need to remove it before firing slugs. Shooting shotgun slugs in a smoothbore musket nesslers the. Greetings jaguarxt 120, the lyman foster slug is a misfit measuring. The molded slugs load into a standard 1 18oz windjammer wad, and my accuracy is identical to the buckhammer slugs. We carry all of major brands including hornady, federal, nosler, buffalo bore, and barnes. Nonexplosive slugs are also used for crowd control.
My ppbs are cast of soft lead bhn 6, just like the old timers did. What you can do is get a rifled choke tube for a smooth bore shotgun and then shoot the sabot slugs but i have found best accuracy doing that with sabot slugs that are on the lower. The shells consist of a paper or plastic tube mounted on a brass base holding. Slugs are designed for hunting large game, selfdefense, and other uses. A modern shotgun slug is a heavy projectile made of lead, copper, or other material and fired from a shotgun. Paper patched or lubricated lead bullets can be swaged in two basic styles, the swc shoulder style shown here, and the smooth ogive style shown below. When foster slugs were invented, they were made with rifling grooves. Always in the forefront of deer slug technology, we redesigned our 12gauge slugger rifled slug for a 25% improvement in accuracy. The shotgun slug combination provides a legal, if shorter range alternative. Well, were here to help so keep reading if youre curious.
A slug or ball from a shotgun, whether smoothbore or rifled, loses its. The manufacturers of sabot slugs dont recommend it, that is usually written on the box. I cant say that the paper patched ammo is significantly more accurate than the greasers, but the difference is definitely there, at least in my hunting rifles. Whether fired from a smooth or rifled barrel, projectiles of the same size. Shotgun ammunition is one of the most popular options available to american shooters today.
Extolling the virtues of the smooth bore slug gun lofi gun. Although i couldnt go far at once, it was good therapy to hobble back and forth between the target butts and the shooting bench. Mass produced bullet molds are designed with very conservative, minimal dimensions north of the crimp groove, so that they will chamber in the great variety of firearms out there. Best accuracy is usually accomplished with a much closer fit, tailored to a particular firearm. Shotgun slugs for handloading ballistic products inc. Reloading 577450 paper patched martinihenry round duration. World record attempt open sight shot 2240 yards ernest jimenez unmodified k31 swiss 7. I have extremely limited paper patching experience myself tried a few store bought read to use patched and all boolits in my muzzle loader once, worked good but expensive to buy ready to use like that. Brenneke rifled slugs still use felt and fiber wads, and are suitable for use in smooth or rifled shotgun barrels. A rifled slug has better accuracy in a smooth barrel, which means longer ranges. Ithaca also offers the deerslayer ii, a 12gauge model 87 that has a rifled barrel permanently fixed to the receiver. One reason hunters use slugs is to hunt deer in states that ban the use of rifles andor buckshot ammo.
Paper patched bullets a paper patched slug can be swaged in three ways. Like with any shotgun or firearm for that matter, you have to try several different slugs through the shotgun to see which one. The first shotgun slugs were probably round, lead pumpkin balls. Patch one wrap but 2 wraps is done by most except for the slug gun. For hunting,the softest buloet that doesnt foul the bore is best. I can load 45 rounds of grease groove ammo in 52 minutes, but it takes 2 12 hours to load 45 rounds of paper patch. How does the accuracy of a modern shotgun firing slugs. I have paper patched the lyman foster slug to bring it up to bore diameter for smoothbore and gotten much better accuracy than as cast but i got frequent fliers as well. The only exceptions are shotguns that have damascus steel twist barrels and barrels with fixed full or tighter. Hey everybody, i recently just purchased a mossberg 500, the combo deal from big 5 that comes with a vented 28 inch and a 18. No good, i can maybe try mouse fart 30 grain loads just to use them up next time. The original loading consisted of a 360 grain paper patched slug. When saboted slugs and rifled shotgun bores came on the scene in the 1980s, some folks believed the fullbore or rifled slug was made obsolete.
My problem right now is regulating two barrels to shoot to the same point of aim at 50 yards. Winged shotgun slugs worldclass target 50 bmg bonded core big game ultra low drag benchrest any weight, any shape hollow point, hollow base wadcutter, semiwadcutter rebated boattail base flat, dish, hollow, or heel base paper patched blackpowder precision round ball hollow base miniestyle subcals down to 0. A projectile is defined as any bullet, ball, sabot, slug, buckshot or other. Because the barrel is smooth, the slug must be rifled to impart stabilizing spin and. Make sure you use the proper length cartridge 2 34 inch or 3 inch your gun is. I want to paper patch them so they will engage the rifling.
Oct 07, 2016 today, gregg brought out some brenneke special forces slugs which he bought. Do i need a rifled barrel for my slug gun or can i just get away with using my smooth bore. A smoothbore gun can be used to take every type of game or fowl. They are questions that come up many times each year. I get only a trace of leading with pure lead,which is bhn5. Im deer hunting first week november, shotgun season. Find your best price for brenneke 12 gauge ammo shotgun slug bulk brenneke 12 gauge ammunition shotgun slug search engine 2020. Sep 06, 2007 rifled slugs have grooves on them, and it will hurt a rifled barrel, where the sabots wont hurt it. Brenneke 12 gauge ammo shotgun slug bulk brenneke 12 gauge. Place some of the provided patch lube between your thumb and forefinger and twist the bullet, in the same direction the patch is rolled, in the lube. Paper patch supplies, paper patch templates, paper patch paper, lead bullets, paper patch bullets.
With a paper cartridge you prime the pan with it first. Back then, slug shotguns had little more than a front bead for aiming. Actually i have written about slugs often in the magazine, but. These are marketed for law enforcement and military. Slug accuracy brands to try in smooth bore shotgun. Can i shoot slugs through a shotgun with a choke in it. Wouldnt it make more sense to make rifled bullets rather than rifled. Paper patch bullets were used in the 1800s for target shooting and hunting and are still being used today. Aug 31, 2011 the managed recoil slugs leave the barrel at 50 fps. These were common projectiles for muskets and shotgunsany sort of smooth bore long arm for a long time. Paper patched ammo is inherently satisfying to shoot, for some reason. They are extremely versatile, efficient, and enjoyable guns. Their 2 34 12 gauge slug weighs 1 14 ounce, and their 3 magnum 20 gauge slug weighs a full 1 ounce.
Shooting shotgun slugs in a smoothbore musket nesslers. Now that gun is not available for me and i will be using my trusty pre 1980 870 234 wingmaster with smooth bore 30 full choke barrel. I know sabot slugs are designed to be used with rifled shotgun barrels, but can they be used effectively with a s. Jul 19, 2018 we did more testing with the heavy hitter slugs and bring you along to see the results.
Paper patched blackpowder big bores up to 1 inch 25mm multi. First, you can make a slug with a small foulingscraper shoulder. Both require a great deal of luck to hit where i aim. Shotguns can shoot slugs out of a smoothbore barrel,try to stick a felt wadd to the base of the bullet, the. Due to my lack of attention to detail, i fail to read where you want to shoot foster style slugs in a shot up through a rifled barrel. I cast 1 oz lee key drive slugs and after a year of testing, i found some accurate loads. Last week coachsjke asked why i never write about slugs. Printer paper is pretty soft and compresses readily in the bore and more. There are at least 20 states that have restrictions of this kind. Will shooting a rifled slug out of a smooth bore shotgun. First off, the field observations of your paring modern shotgun slugs to a round ball.
Look for 12gauge ammo, 10gauge, 16gauge, 20gauge, 28. The northwest trade gun, fusil, fowling piece, musket, or shotgun, whether flintlock or percussion, have certain things in common. Unfortunately, the accuracy of a lead ball fired from a smooth bore barrel is pretty sad. Although it is true that a smooth bore shotgun loaded up with slugs will never rival the accuracy of a centerfire rifle or even a dedicated, rifled barrel slug gun, the reputation the smooth bored have for inaccuracy is somewhat undeserved.